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1999-11-19 06:19William Harris (idm) any truth to this?
└─ 1999-11-19 21:15mtheuletant Re: (idm) any truth to this? (fat cat/pole scandal)
1999-11-19 15:44Dave Segal Re: (idm) any truth to this?
1999-11-19 16:03Ernesto Ikerd Re: (idm) any truth to this?
1999-11-19 16:14Ernesto Ikerd Re: (idm) any truth to this?
1999-11-19 18:15Chris Fahey Re: (idm) any truth to this?
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1999-11-19 06:19William HarrisCan anyone confirm or deny this post from the autechre ng? ------------------------------8
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Can anyone confirm or deny this post from the autechre ng? ------------------------------8< ------------------------------------------- --------------------------- From: Kenny Johnson <kenny@eidosnet.co.uk ...and a very odd press release. Here's the jist of it (slightly edited because I can't be bothered typing it _all_ out): *Pole imposter forces withdrawal of Split 12" (Pole v Jim Plotkin)* Having mailed out a small quantity of initial promos of the above release, Fatcat have been temporarily forced to withdraw the release. ...we began to hear rumours ... that Stefan Betke (Pole) was extremely unhappy with the release & wanted it pulled. As far as we were concerned, we had conducted ourselves perfectly as a label, so were bewildered and confusedas to there being any problem. We had originally received a DAT under the name Pole... enclosing a new e-mail address for him (which turns out to be nonexistent)... After cutting the release, we tried to contact Stefan to send him a test pressing, but he wasn't in Berlin... we sent test pressings to HardWax... With production deadlines encroaching, we decided to press 200 copies which we began to mail out... Shocked to hear there was a problem, we contacted Stefan... The outcome is that neither of the two tracks we had cut were actually recorded by him(!!), that in fact he had not sent anything. The conclusion we have to draw is that someone has pulled a very costly scam on both Pole and FatCat. Having spent over a thousand pounds on the release, this action affects us directly as individuals (the cost involved means that we won't be getting paid this month). Fortunately we were able to recall the bulk of the pressing... the total amount mailed out is just 30 or 40 copies. Initially, all the evidence pointed to the prank-heavy axis of V/VM ... we contacted them... they denied any involvement... we are willing to believe they are not involved... V/VM have been victims of scams themselves recently... .... The Pole track has been finished... the release date has been rescheduled for next spring... ----------------------------------------->8 -------------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
1999-11-19 21:15mtheuletant>Having spent over a thousand pounds on the release, this action >affects us directly as i
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quoted 3 lines Having spent over a thousand pounds on the release, this action>Having spent over a thousand pounds on the release, this action >affects us directly as individuals (the cost involved means that we >won't be getting paid this month).
i think they meant- 'the cost involved means Bjork won't be getting paid as much this month' ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
1999-11-19 15:44Dave Segal>Can anyone confirm or deny this post from the >autechre ng? Yes, there appears to be trut
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Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:44:28 -0400
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quoted 2 lines Can anyone confirm or deny this post from the>Can anyone confirm or deny this post from the >autechre ng?
Yes, there appears to be truth to it. FatCat sent me this press release with its latest package. Label head Dave Howell doesn't seem like the kind of guy to publish false information just to mess with heads. FatCat apparently lost a lot of money because of this prank. He seemed genuinely angry about it. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org np: khan- passport [matador]
quoted 46 lines ------------------------------8< ------------------------------------------->------------------------------8< ------------------------------------------- >--------------------------- >From: Kenny Johnson <kenny@eidosnet.co.uk > >...and a very odd press release. > >Here's the jist of it (slightly edited because I can't be bothered >typing it _all_ out): > > >*Pole imposter forces withdrawal of Split 12" (Pole v Jim Plotkin)* > >Having mailed out a small quantity of initial promos of the above >release, Fatcat have been temporarily forced to withdraw the release. > >...we began to hear rumours ... that Stefan Betke (Pole) was extremely >unhappy with the release & wanted it pulled. As far as we were >concerned, we had conducted ourselves perfectly as a label, so were >bewildered and confusedas to there being any problem. We had originally >received a DAT under the name Pole... enclosing a new e-mail address for >him (which turns out to be nonexistent)... After cutting the release, we >tried to contact Stefan to send him a test pressing, but he wasn't in >Berlin... we sent test pressings to HardWax... With production deadlines >encroaching, we decided to press 200 copies which we began to mail >out... > >Shocked to hear there was a problem, we contacted Stefan... The outcome >is that neither of the two tracks we had cut were actually recorded by >him(!!), that in fact he had not sent anything. The conclusion we have >to draw is that someone has pulled a very costly scam on both Pole and >FatCat. Having spent over a thousand pounds on the release, this action >affects us directly as individuals (the cost involved means that we >won't be getting paid this month). Fortunately we were able to recall >the bulk of the pressing... the total amount mailed out is just 30 or 40 >copies. > >Initially, all the evidence pointed to the prank-heavy axis of V/VM >... >we contacted them... they denied any involvement... we are willing to >believe they are not involved... V/VM have been victims of scams >themselves recently... > >.... >The Pole track has been finished... the release date has been >rescheduled for next spring... >----------------------------------------->8 --------------------------------
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1999-11-19 16:03Ernesto Ikerd>We had originally >received a DAT under the name Pole... ASOLUTELY NOT TRUE!!! I wrote "D
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quoted 2 lines We had originally>We had originally >received a DAT under the name Pole...
ASOLUTELY NOT TRUE!!! I wrote "Dole" on that tape, but my handwriting is really bad.. Dadgummit! Now my other demos under the names "6escom" and "House on Mars" will probably never get pressed either. I need to start writing with a finer point marker! Dang :( ernie PS- ;) Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-1156 Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems Fort Worth, Texas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
1999-11-19 16:14Ernesto Ikerd>ASOLUTELY NOT TRUE!!! and I obviously cant spell either..... Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-479
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quoted 1 line ASOLUTELY NOT TRUE!!!>ASOLUTELY NOT TRUE!!!
and I obviously cant spell either..... Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-1156 Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems Fort Worth, Texas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
1999-11-19 18:15Chris Fahey>>Can anyone confirm or deny this post from the >>autechre ng? > >Yes, there appears to be
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quoted 7 lines Can anyone confirm or deny this post from the>>Can anyone confirm or deny this post from the >>autechre ng? > >Yes, there appears to be truth to it. FatCat sent >me this press release with its latest package. Label >head Dave Howell doesn't seem like the kind of guy to publish >false information just to mess with heads.
Ooooh! I bid $300 for this rare, recalled disk, from anyone who was smart enough to *not* return it to the label as requested. This may very well be the debut of some new, so far anonymous prankster musician. By the way, has anyone heard the "Pole Imposter"? How is it? - Cf ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - c h r i s t ø p h e r f ª h e y . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ chrisf@raremedium.com 2 1 2 - 6 3 4 - 6 9 5 0 x 2 5 8 http://www.raremedium.com - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org